Gamemodi

Weaken clerics:

Reduce overall HP by 10%
Reduce self heals by 10%
Reduce Prayer effectiveness by 10%
Reduce wounding damage by 10%

I voted yes.

By reduce Prayer effectiveness by 10% do you mean 40 - 10 = 30 or 40 * .9 = 36?

Also, I heard Sorien say one time that he can't change HP values as they are hard-coded into the class. If he can't, would you be willing to nerf Prayer proportionally more than 10% to make up for the inability to nerf base health?

Some Math:
288 * .9 = 259.2, rounded down a 10% HP reduction for Clerics would give them 259 HP.

These calculations are based on reduced base HP: 259
Effective HP = 404.68 / 392.42 / 370 (Damage Red = 36/33/30)
Effective H7 max roll heal (60) = 93.75, 90.90, 85.7

These calculations are based on current base HP: 288
Effective HP = 404.68 (needs Damage Reduction to be 29%), 392.42 (needs 26.5%), 370 (needs 22%)
Effective H7 max roll heal (60) at these values = 84.5 (29), 81.6 (26.5), 76.9 (22%)

In conclusion, if Sorien can't lower HP, would you settle for P5 being 30% damage reduction? It is essentially the same thing. That + a minor healing nerf would might take us a step closer to balance.

Is wounding nerf just for w1,2 and 3 or does it affect DK too? I like DK the way it is I don't think it needs a nerf.

I don't know all the math stuff, just that a cleric is overall 10% easier to kill and not as effective a killer. We can start there and increase/decrease after some trial period

Max HP will be hard to change, but the other ones are good.

The HP is embedded in the client? You can do it

Dain wrote:The HP is embedded in the client? You can do it

Well it's embedded in the client and also uses a formula... so I would have to find out exactly how it works in the client before editing it ;p

Sorien wrote:

Dain wrote:The HP is embedded in the client? You can do it

Well it's embedded in the client and also uses a formula... so I would have to find out exactly how it works in the client before editing it ;p

That sounds like a very Sorien thing to do lol

Since you made level caps at 15 is it possible to make a level cap just for clerics? Like make clerics max level 25...that's a lot less hp/power/5 spell picks & 1 wall. See how it goes for clerics at 25...then u can give or take away a level from there. Also seems like the easiest thing to do programming wise.

RiP wrote:Since you made level caps at 15 is it possible to make a level cap just for clerics? Like make clerics max level 25...that's a lot less hp/power/5 spell picks & 1 wall. See how it goes for clerics at 25...then u can give or take away a level from there. Also seems like the easiest thing to do programming wise.

Nah I wouldn't do that... if I really have to I'll do the HP thing.

I don't think you should nerf clerics. In the FFA games today I saw 0 clerics playing .

Any ETA on this Sor?Majority seems to like it.

Can spells still be added into the game? would be cool to make a spell that reduces healing effectiveness by like 20-40-60%. Call it, I don't know...Sign Disease I, II, III or replace Unpower with it? Or for ments, Mind Spike (level 7)

If that doesnt work, reduce the values to the old formula? Just thoughts.

Most of this may be moot now, but holding off on saying anything.

You guys are kidding, right? Weaken the cleric? In a duel, a 12th Arc can void a 30 and eventually win.